Zildjian 16231968 made in turkey, istanbul istanbul, turkey. Our new website platform is not always able to calculate accurate shipping rates. Now the modern american zildjian company acknowledges its forefather in this new set, an updated take on the traditional turkishstyle cymbals produced in the 1950s and. Today, k zildjian cymbals from the istanbul period are perhaps the most sought after vintage cymbals in. Testing an old stamp zildjian k istanbul 18 ride cymbal. I believe part of what has happened to create misleading price expectations is people not being careful to distinguish old ks from old stamp ks. Dating zildjian cymbals stamp custom metalcraft transtore. So, youve got a great sounding vintage zildjian k ride cymbal but you have no.
These stamps have changed over the years in a subtle and not so subtle manner and therefore they represent a timeline of sorts and a way of evaluating the ages of cymbals. Purple chord classic drums and cymbals cymbals zildjian k zildjian 20 zildjian k. K istanbul zildjian hihat vintage 40s old stamp 890. Zildjian stamp dating a gallery of the avedis trademark and ink logo eras. An exercise in recapturing the mystical qualities of old, turkishmanufactured k cymbals, the success of the k constantinople range was a reflection of armands lifetime within the industry. The same bronze zildjian first stamp where you were soda bottle dating vintage collection. Zildjian operation in istanbul, purchased in 1960, is moved to the meductic plant. As the worlds leading maker of cymbals, drumsticks, and percussion mallets, zildjian products are sold across the globe, under the zildjian, vic firth, and balter brands, and are the. Facebook is showing information to help you better understand the purpose of a page. P urple chords mission is to source and sell key collectable pieces from the classic and modern era of ludwig and paiste productions and istanbul cymbals. Zildjian paperthin 353gram cymbal and came with a leedy 1937 trapset.
The common nickname for turkish made k zildjian cymbals is old ks. Zildjian k istanbul 20 old stamp 1959 thin sizzle crash ride 1774 grams duration. I have a k zildjian 15 old stamp 1 istanbul cymbal in very good condition which has been in my family for years. Zildjian stamp dating a gallery of the avedis trademark and ink. The zildjian company has been synonymous with setting the standard for the development and manufacture of high performance musical instruments since 1623.
The phrase k zildjian was shrunk compared to the preceding stamp. Zildjian experts, need your help identifying some vintage. Dark, buttery and complex chick, brooding tones all round. New changes are coming to the vintage cymbal web site. The first stamp that included the word istanbul used a tall narrow. This is also known as the preink period, so before mid 1970s when zildjian started the silkscreen ink stamps on the bottom with the open inkstamp logo. I do give bill hartrick credit for his original, and i have done further research.
But these come in different stamp eras and have significantly different expected prices. Purple chord is a product of beppe quirolis passion for classic and vintage ludwig drums and paiste and istanbul cymbals. K zildjian 18 sizzle ride cymbal istanbul stamp 67 77 selling with. Zildjian cymbal stamp timeline drum kit leisure scribd. Zildjian stamps each zildjian cymbal that is made carries a makers stamp. In the fourties bebop drummers began to use larger rides and sizzle cymbals. At some point after their introduction in the 1980s, they put the zildjian logo on the bottom. It is also important to note that in the late 70s and early 80s zildjian started using the black printing on the cymbal along with a stamp. Recently around 2005 zildjian started putting the k logo on the bottom again.
See more ideas about zildjian cymbals, drums and percussion. The 70s stamp is also referred to as the thin stamp because of the light embossing used at the time. The open ink stamp is found in a mid seventies catalog. Testing an old stamp zildjian k istanbul 18 ride cymbal while trying to keep up with some favourite art blakey tracks.
Im responsible for any mistakes in my interpretation of his stamp identifying features. Bill hartrick finally published his k zildjian istanbul timeline in a two page section of rob cooks the gretsch drum book 20. For the month of august, i will be making updates to this web site and adding lots of vintage cymbal content. Skip to main content skip to footer site520159927780 site5201689364946720 new h78638 zildjian k constantinople crash site520159927780,site520159927796,site520159927804. This thinner stamp makes 70s models easier to confuse with the stamps of the 50s, but can be identified by the nonbold zildjian co logo, 1 316 stamp size, and uniform machine hammering. Both are zildjian avedis or as as some people refer to them. One of the best perks of my job is the people i meet and connect with on a day to day basis.
Stamps on vintage zildjian cymbals allow them to be dated. Ive tried looking at the height of other type of turkish. This is an interactive diagnostic key which should help you identify the trademark stamp on a k zildjian istanbul cymbal. Zildjian medium ride 24 pork pie usa black oyster pearl piccolo snare w tube lugs. Zildjian k k istanbul new stamp 1967 drum for sale purple. Its hard to see if the dots are present on the stamp. Note a more rounded j in zildjian in 30s, more square j in 1920s original. Also now the font for the word istanbul is as tall as the star and moon. Cymbal manufacturers refer to companies andor individuals who primarily manufacture andor ship cymbals, bells, gongs, or any other metallic percussion item of that type, be it b8 or b20, mass produced or boutique, ride, crash, splash, or hihat, for use by percussionists, drummers, and other musicians cymbal manufacturing is a difficult field to succeed in. See actions taken by the people who manage and post content. Avedis zildjian 22 inch ride cymbal heavy usa 70s vintage stevenage, hertfordshire large 22 inch ride cymbal designated heavy by the factory.
The identification information and years are based on the pioneering work of bill hartrick. In 1978 the k zildjian factory producing traditional handmade cymbals made by the other based in turkey faction of the zildjian family, the competition so to speak to the american family maker at the time before being shut down, was closed in istanbul, turkey. K istanbul zildjian hihat vintage 40s old stamp 8901025 grams. Fill in the form at the bottom of this page and try again. In the thirties zildjian s most popular cymbal measured between 8 and 14 inch, weight paperthin, easily bendable. Reverb is the marketplace for musicians to buy and sell used, vintage, and new music gear online. Zildjian 16231968 made in turkey musical instrument in istanbul, turkey. Originalausgabe vom customer service deopartment, paiste schweiz vom 15. K zildjian constantinople timeline k zildjian istanbul timeline stamp anomalies new old stamp i 1930s1945 the city of turkey officially changed its name from constantinople to istanbul in 1930. Cymbal stamp timelines k zildjian istanbul timeline rob scott.
The gretsch vs avedis case was decided in january 1959 in the usa. Cymbals are engraved with a trademark by the maker. It is probably a 1930s export in a bulky order to some company or country. The mid 1950s stamp is also duplicated in the 70s, but the stamp is not as heavy and the cymbal is not hand hammered so do not be confused by that stamp. K zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sounds that harken back to the original k cymbals developed by zildjian in 19th century turkey. Zildjian cymbal stamp timeline free download as pdf file. The old zildjian cymbal foundry was in constantinople, dating back to the 17th century. The legendary k con is renowned for its perfect blended sound quality. Intermediate stamp 19591966 great condition, no issues, only some keyhole. I really dont know if it is a limited run or certain models, but there are recently made k s with the k logo on the bottom.
They are new stamps, so made from mid60s to mid 70s i suppose. Complex hammering contributes to the cymbals unique sonic identity and dark tones that can be at once cutting and smooth. This thinner stamp makes 70s models easier to confuse with the stamps of the 50s, but can be identified by the nonbold zildjian co logo, 1 316 stamp. Made in small batches using a 14step hammering process, k constantinople has its own signature voice. Vintage 1930s marching tuba has a working date timeline. Cymbal stamp timelines k zildjian istanbul timeline scribd. Ive also created an interactive id tool for k stamps. The drums are some old gretsch round badges 12, 14, 20 and the snare.
Cymbal stamp timelines k zildjian constantinople timeline. Zildjian s k constantinople range made its debut in 1998 and was one of the final projects undertaken by the late armand zildjian. Recently came with zildjian trans stamp pressed into them, 12, wiki. It was not until many years later that the k zildjian cymbal factory updated its cymbal stamps. One of those people is steve black, a trained statistician researching zildjian and paiste cymbals.
You may not have access this page because you do not have the appropriate permissions. Ride size ranged up to 30 inch and 16 inch hihats are known from this era. While other instruments have incorporated date stamps and serial numbers for years, a working date. The earliest zildjian cymbals with complete stamps logo, name, trademark use the letter k for kerope zildjian, and are marked with constantinople as. Cymbal stamp timelines k zildjian istanbul timeline. Kerope k zildjian was patriarch of the historic oldest cymbal family between 1865 and 1905, back in the days when zildjian was based in constantinople, presentday istanbul. Ride cymbal has excellent stick definition and just the right amount of wash not too much and click for details a. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or. The turkish faction, led first by kerope zildjian the k in k. The company was founded in constantinople presentday istanbul, k zildjian cymbals zildjian. Im back with the info, and a pic of that later stamp. It has got holes for sizzle rivets and weighs 640g.
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